tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7108577687673016887.post8886943347876775194..comments2023-11-03T16:50:50.878+08:00Comments on mind NO EVIL: IS OUR MILITARY READY TO TAKE OVER A CIVILIAN GOVERNMENT?Mohd Arshad Rajihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04280406045497460630noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7108577687673016887.post-47096930334770207342011-05-31T01:07:50.207+08:002011-05-31T01:07:50.207+08:00When the government system is in trouble, the arme...When the government system is in trouble, the armed forces especially the army is compelled to restore public law and order in the country. The question of the armed forces walking into the system is not realistic as we have a government system similar to the British system of government where all government agencies are subservient to the the political system, unless the governing politicians cannot handle governing the country anymore and the armed forces is required to take over for the interim period. I think, as was rumoured, the government did request the army to take over the situation during 5/13/69 but declined as the NOC formed then was more than adequate, with late Gen Tun Ibrahim as the executive head. I believe our system of government has a very solid organization and foundation; cannot imagine at this point in time to think of chaos in our country and obliging the armed forces to step in as an interim govenment.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7108577687673016887.post-20146937339769284702011-02-27T22:21:40.261+08:002011-02-27T22:21:40.261+08:00FRIENDS - It would be a disaster !
How many true ...FRIENDS - It would be a disaster !<br /><br />How many true professionals do we have wearing uniforms today, no matter what the rank is?<br /><br />Have we not seen, heard and feel, they have all towed the line!<br /><br />May it be in the Military or Police!<br /><br />The deciding factor is the lower ranks...that is my take...I may be dead wrong...the facts are clear plain and simple...no need to be a PROFESSOR IN POLITICAL SCIENCE or Scientists in Politics!komandohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07435548376301472113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7108577687673016887.post-64031614814959084452011-02-25T15:23:55.936+08:002011-02-25T15:23:55.936+08:00Dear Dato’ and friends,
Will it happen as “hypoth...Dear Dato’ and friends,<br /><br />Will it happen as “hypothesized” here? <br /><br />Personally I have my reservation, even if one that is based on the prospect of the military filling the vacuum to assert the Malay supremacy. To me the whole notion of the military playing that role is rather simplistic in its orientation. It begs the question on plausibility i.e. the spirit by which this notion can materialize must be clarified especially in terms of its mediating variables.<br /><br />I have no definite answer to this but some consideration in terms of its mediating variables that comes to mind is:<br />a. The esprit de corps elements intra and inter-services.<br />b. The Malay/Non-Malay “expert” in key units of the services/arms e.g.<br />communication, logistic, intelligence etc…etc<br />c.Police-Military rivalry because the military and police must work hand in glove here. <br />d.Leadership quality.<br /><br />To me unless and until the above and some others that can be thought out, the proffered possibility of it happening and effectively working can only rest on shaky normative suppositions.benadamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01821462526885058556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7108577687673016887.post-12223283199261349522011-02-24T10:01:00.731+08:002011-02-24T10:01:00.731+08:00Dato'
It is noted that some would say our mil...Dato'<br /><br />It is noted that some would say our military officers are professional namely the senior rank. However, how professional the lower rank are especially the new Lt, Capt and so on. Let alone the LLP. <br /><br />Frankly speaking currently I would say there is no different between those senior officers and politician.<br /><br />Therefore, I could not say either our military is ready or not to take over a civilian government. Their capability & professionalism (not to mention patriotism) as compared to those days is questionable.<br /><br />Nevertheless, I pray to God that we will not facing the same situation in Mesir, Libya or Bahrain. BUT It will happen one day when people feel that they are being victimized by the leaders and could not take it anymore as what being experienced by those countries.<br /><br />Enough is enough in remembering the suffering we face during our war with communist.Kamal Sanusihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04419068971478843217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7108577687673016887.post-19408762199173859512011-02-24T08:53:27.224+08:002011-02-24T08:53:27.224+08:00Dear Killroy,
I agree with you, it could happen i...Dear Killroy,<br /><br />I agree with you, it could happen if not for the existence of other communities which act as a countervailing force to such attempts.We have to be thankful for this for this what has kept our country going.mauricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03683620510088068290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7108577687673016887.post-18573514270685106042011-02-24T00:44:30.504+08:002011-02-24T00:44:30.504+08:00Dear Dato',
In my opinion, if that does happe...Dear Dato',<br /><br />In my opinion, if that does happen, the military is ready to take on. Our present Chiefs are professional soldiers and the years of service they have clocked have gained them vast experience in both military and civilian matters.<br /><br />However, I beleve the military will not do it single-handedly. It is by no means a sign of weakness or incapability on the part of the military to assume the responsibilities to govern during the interim period. On the contrary, I think the military would like to emulate the government's policy of power sharing. Remember how successful MAGERAN was when it was established soon after the May 13 69 debacle? Or how successful RASCOM was when it was formed to eliminate the communist insurgents in the Sibu/Kanowit/Kapit areas. We have this workable 'model'to fall back to if the need arises. What need to be done, as I believe it could be out-dated by now, is to improve on it. <br /><br />I hope I am not off-track.Thank you.ben sungibhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07365813452074891311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7108577687673016887.post-2304472127592933012011-02-23T19:29:28.180+08:002011-02-23T19:29:28.180+08:00I can forgive you as a blogger for suggesting the ...I can forgive you as a blogger for suggesting the unthinkable. Depicting the MAF as possible military governors of our country is to me a very sick joke indeed. <br />Dato, Melayu tak akan menderhaka!!<br />Not in a thousand years..<br />So the powers that be, wipe the smirk from your faces...wirahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16996772225109914890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7108577687673016887.post-44636811404067300512011-02-23T17:50:22.581+08:002011-02-23T17:50:22.581+08:00Never thought of that. But don't every country...Never thought of that. But don't every country has some sort of protocol to follow in such situation?Kay Stanford Jr Kastumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14169015764667356696noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7108577687673016887.post-53538941107349903882011-02-23T13:55:05.265+08:002011-02-23T13:55:05.265+08:00Dato'
It will happen when the Malays are quar...Dato'<br /><br />It will happen when the Malays are quarrelling each other!!Skidrow Cross-Fingerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12697721226227351612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7108577687673016887.post-34782978180719188832011-02-23T12:47:34.842+08:002011-02-23T12:47:34.842+08:00Dear Dato,
It is reported that Ghaddafi has very ...Dear Dato,<br /><br />It is reported that Ghaddafi has very few friends and the only country willing to offer him safety is Zimbabwe.<br /><br />He has strong support from his tribe and should he play the tribal card, Libya could be engulfed in a civil war.mauricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03683620510088068290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7108577687673016887.post-41101424471235021672011-02-23T12:42:28.668+08:002011-02-23T12:42:28.668+08:00I am sure our leaders are capable, having been exp...I am sure our leaders are capable, having been exposed to MPAT,INTAN,NDC etc. The only unknown factor would be the conscience. This is to say that, once the job is done, the Military leadership ensures return to constitutional rule and steps aside like a big brother. Note that in the MENA countries, the military reacts differently to the current turmoil. Why? This should be now a course of study for our fellows in uniform.Mej. A R Ramachandran (Retired)https://www.blogger.com/profile/17742228180205035010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7108577687673016887.post-37851262657414611492011-02-23T12:08:55.524+08:002011-02-23T12:08:55.524+08:00Dear Maurice,
We should take a lesson from Libya....Dear Maurice,<br /><br />We should take a lesson from Libya. I think Ghaddafi has made the biggest blunder by using the military to his side. He will lose the battle.<br />On hindside, I think Mubarak was wiser.Mohd Arshad Rajihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04280406045497460630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7108577687673016887.post-3357249004313278362011-02-23T11:25:13.956+08:002011-02-23T11:25:13.956+08:00The protection of the rakyat and avoiding unnecess...The protection of the rakyat and avoiding unnecessary loss of lives are most paramount when dealing with aggressive crowds in any Public Order Operation.Non-lethal means must be used to the maximun to disperse hostile assemblies.Officers and rank and file must be inculcated with the moral value to respect the lives and properties of fellow citizens.The MAF should conduct courses for its officers and rank and file in this core human value so that it does commit the mistake of killing its own fellow citizens should it be involved with Public Order operations.mauricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03683620510088068290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7108577687673016887.post-38181250039866759872011-02-21T13:55:53.986+08:002011-02-21T13:55:53.986+08:00Salam,
Do not worry,there will be no takeover by t...Salam,<br />Do not worry,there will be no takeover by the Mil.We are vastly different from the Arab states.Most demonstrators here are paid by few anti establiment elements and some of them did not understand and confuse why they demonstrated.Only lazy people are jobless here and some trouble makers who passed sweeping statements [they are entitled to their opinion] here and yet shamefully wallop their pension,langsong tidak mengenang budi dan bersukur/berterima kasih.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17673777274188952002noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7108577687673016887.post-68059151091842019712011-02-20T23:38:54.166+08:002011-02-20T23:38:54.166+08:00A military coup d'etat is different matter.Com...A military coup d'etat is different matter.Common phenomena in African country.Our MAF is very nationalistic.The MAF is loyal to the King and country. So the chances of a coup d'etat is very remote.<br /><br />A military government on the other hand is only applicable during war time.Hence when the British took back Malaya from the Japanese, the British created the BMA (British Military Administration) to administer the country.<br /><br />Martial law can be imposed by the ruling Government if the situation warrants it.In Thailand martial law is imposed in the South to allow the Thai Army a free hand in dealing with the insurgency there.<br /><br />If Malaysia faces armed insurrection to take over the country by force martial law can be imposed to defeat it, whereas a state of Emergency is sufficient to deal a low intensity threat like the CPM Insurgency.<br /><br />Even if martial law is imposed, the civilian government will still be in full control.Only through coup d'etat where the military topples the government by military force can the Generals be in full control in the affairs of the state.mauricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03683620510088068290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7108577687673016887.post-87189137398302612962011-02-20T07:39:58.444+08:002011-02-20T07:39:58.444+08:00dtk,i believe the present leadership are not capab...dtk,i believe the present leadership are not capable lots but the present officers group will take over one dayTENGKU RAZALIhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16998581398928554371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7108577687673016887.post-38394794753940492982011-02-20T07:37:48.483+08:002011-02-20T07:37:48.483+08:00the top military personnel are in colloboration wi...the top military personnel are in colloboration with the corupted politicians ,so how to implement martial lawTENGKU RAZALIhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16998581398928554371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7108577687673016887.post-70846815459278537732011-02-20T01:10:57.926+08:002011-02-20T01:10:57.926+08:00It is the last course of action when nothing else ...It is the last course of action when nothing else fails in order to save the country from total anarchy.The military will have to step in whether they like it or not.In such a scenario, the constitution will be suspended and the citizens will be subjected to military law and justice.Military law could reduce cases of rampant corruption as such activity could be considered as treason.People will think twice before committing corrupt act as they could face death by firing squad.mauricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03683620510088068290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7108577687673016887.post-38680724083241787042011-02-20T00:06:08.876+08:002011-02-20T00:06:08.876+08:00Dato,im very sure d army a not prepared , they are...Dato,im very sure d army a not prepared , they are good in organising , protocoling ,golfing .some of them a good but BODEK kurang being left . Dato tbaru ada dgr ke , tanye2 kee, ada team lama team baru . TD jgn la tumpang semangkok bkempen bila ada PRK ;contoh d Bagan Pinang N9 . Cerita memang la tak terlibat BERKECUALI tapiiiii....Cuba buat kajian baik Pegawai maupun Lain2 Pangkat bila bheti tau pencen 80% sokong PR .Encikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06605309152886764036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7108577687673016887.post-74354904080693359032011-02-19T09:06:56.246+08:002011-02-19T09:06:56.246+08:00Dato', wishful thinking and no way sir! Will m...Dato', wishful thinking and no way sir! Will make sure- will kick the generals with the assistant of the soldiers!<br />Our Military leaderships quality are questionable! Mostly incompetent and you sure know that sir!<br />But they can try their luck if they want to and let see!EAGLEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10460854261672714036noreply@blogger.com